Simon and Jude Apostles 28.10.12 John 15 17-end

20 10 2012

Instructions for Living

To help us commemorate two of Jesus’ friends and apostles, Simon and Jude, we have gone to John’s gospel. The preacher’s challenge is to connect what Jesus said to them – according to John – with what God might be saying to us today.

John 15.17-end

Jesus said to his disciples, I am giving you these commands so that you may love one another.

18 ‘If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. 19If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world—therefore the world hates you. 20Remember the word that I said to you, “Servants are not greater than their master.” If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also. 21But they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates me hates my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not have sin. But now they have seen and hated both me and my Father. 25It was to fulfil the word that is written in their law, “They hated me without a cause.”

26 ‘When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father, he will testify on my behalf. 27You also are to testify because you have been with me from the beginning.


To help give shape to the reflection I am going to suggest three types of question: head questions, heart questions and hand questions. They are about our intellectual response, our emotional response and our practical or behavioural response.  I hope that you will want to work at all three levels. You might prefer to stay in one area. But beware of staying in your comfort zone. That’s rarely where profound preaching comes from.

Head Questions

Notice how often the word ‘if’ is repeated in this passage.
Do you think it is really a matter of if’ or ‘when’ with all these things?
What does Jesus mean when he uses the word ‘advocate’? (You may prefer to think of the ‘comforter’.  That works as long as you think of it in the literal sense of ‘the one who strengthens and supports’ rather than the softer sense of ‘the one who calms and placates’.)
What does the word ‘sin’ mean here?

Heart Questions

What is it like to be on the receiving end of hatred?
How do you typically react?
Can you say anything about being on the giving end of hatred?
Have you ever despised the followers of Jesus?

Hand Questions

The practical outcome of this seems to be a requirement to testify. Well here is your opportunity:
What do you have to say about Jesus?
Where do you say it?
Where are you going to say it?
How will you be an advocate for the advocate?


These questions are intended to challenge you to engage more closely with the passage and to hear and feel what it has to say to you.  That’s more than a five-minute task. And so is the follow-up – working out what you might want to say to others as a result of engaging with the passage with head, heart and hands.  Take your time.



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Really liked the H/H/H questions this week Stephen….also thought the v18-19 identification as counter cultural and the consequences of that was interesting… What qualities do disciples have/need….

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